89. Toxins Part I with Sinclair Kennally

Sinclair Kennally 0:03

You know, we think in the US that like if it's on the shelves that must be saved somebody is looking out for me. And honestly, that's not really the case.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 0:12

Welcome to the your longevity blueprint podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Stephanie gray. My number one goal with the show is to help you discover your personalized plan to build your dream health and live a longer, happier, truly healthier life. You're about to hear from Sinclair Conneely Our topic today is the importance of detoxification. This is going to be a two part episode in part one, we cover industrial chemicals, heavy metals and mold and in part two, we're going to dive into EMFs and plastics, we're going to talk about how all of these toxins interfere with our longevity and interfere with our ability to self heal. Stay tuned for both episodes. This is an awesome interview. Let's get started.

Welcome to another episode of The your longevity blueprint Podcast. Today, my guest is Sinclair canali. She's a former chronic illness patient turned health activist as an award winning expert on chronic digestive illnesses CEO of detox, rejuvenation, calm and host of the your health reset podcast. She's on a mission to help people discover the real reasons behind their health issues and take their power back. Welcome to the show. Sinclair,

Sinclair Kennally 1:19

thank you so much, Stephanie. It's a joy to be here,

Dr. Stephanie Gray 1:21

we're gonna get to some good stuff today. But as many of the listeners know, chapter five of my book, Your longevity blueprint compares the laundry room in our homes, to the detox organs in our body, right, we have a constant influx of dirty clothes in our home, especially with a toddler that needs to be washed, dried, folded and put away. And that never stops. That's an ongoing process. It's not like we do the laundry once in our life, and it's done. It is constant. The same is true with our bodies. And I know that's something that you heavily focus on. I mean, if we're not detoxing, we die. I mean, literally, that could be the title of this episode, detox or die, right? There are things that we can do to limit our exposure to toxins, and there are things we can do to help our detox organs work more effectively. So that's what I want to focus this episode on today. And you're an expert in this area. So let's start with your story. Sinclair, so how did you become the CEO of detox rejuvenation

Sinclair Kennally 2:14

the hard way?

Dr. Stephanie Gray 2:17

That's the best way it makes for the best story. So let's hear

Sinclair Kennally 2:20

well, both my partner in all things, Michael spindle, and I actually started in mental health. And we were convinced that most health issues were actually highly psychosomatic. And, you know, we loved helping people with the, you know, mental and emotional aspects of healing. And then we both got too sick to continue practices. And we became mystery, chronic illness patients, we had very different symptoms. And it didn't matter which specialist we went to, they all had different ideas. Each one was weirder and dumber than the last to get put on all sorts of weird medications. And misdiagnosed over and over again, are just told everybody loves to hear this right. Your labs look normal. You're fine. That's. So it was it was a really tough few years. But Michael was the one who actually figured it out. He was at a European toxicology conference. And he called me and said, Oh, my God, I know what's wrong with both of us.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 3:16

Wow. Yeah. Can you share a little bit of? So you both were toxic? It sounds like yeah, so can you share for the listeners so that they know like you mentioned your symptoms were different. So you may not have thought your root cause was similar? Right? What were some of your symptoms as compared to his symptoms that both have this this same root cause?

Sinclair Kennally 3:35

So I had fibromyalgia and it went undiagnosed. And I also had Lyme, and mold poisoning and heavy metal poisoning. And what that amounted to for me on any given day was extreme depression and social phobia and anxiety and the inability to really function with any stimulus whatsoever, like a write on my website, stories, things like standing in a coffee shop line, and absolutely having a meltdown because it was taking too long to get to the front. But it was really just that I couldn't stand for more than a few minutes at a time. Wow. So by the end of it for me, I couldn't read an email. I couldn't write a sentence. I couldn't stand up for more than a few minutes at a time. I couldn't even walk to the back of my own office building to check on my own employees. It was terrifying. Yeah.

And I had insomnia, whereas Michael could never really wake up, honestly. And he had food sensitivities that seemed to change overnight. You know, he'd get on a roll he'd have he'd finally you know, he'd say, Okay, I finally found it, you know, and I have a very, very strict diet and it would work for about two and a half weeks, and then everything would shift. He had serious mast cell activation issues, right? Extremely histamine, sensitive, unlivable skin sensitivities, he had a rash that really didn't look bad to the outside, but it was just constant itching. And you know, the sensations for him were just unbelievable night, and he wouldn't do it take like 10 hours a day to wake up. It was, like 7pm. He finally

Dr. Stephanie Gray 5:06

when I hear patients like, Michael, I think EMFs could be causing problems. And I think mold I mean, in many of those cases, and I don't know if that was true for him or not, or if you don't even have to share if you don't want, but maybe we'll dive into those. So

Sinclair Kennally 5:19

yeah, you're spot on, EMS were a huge issue for us in our house, they were absolutely making us sick. We were sleeping in seven volts, which anything over one volt is considered catastrophic by building biologists.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 5:30

So how did you figure that out? Basically went to a conference. And he basically thought, Okay, I need to start exploring some of these triggers or, yeah, so

Sinclair Kennally 5:39

it's it's an exciting time in the US that these ideas are finally getting out there. But many years ago, they were not. Europe was way ahead of us. So he finally started connecting the dots himself about heavy metals and my symptoms and mold exposure. He said, We need to look into this. And he started digging in. And I had mold in my office at work, and I had mold in my car. We didn't have it in the house, but we did have it in the basement, but it wasn't like a house wide. Had you know you had it in your car. He could smell it and I couldn't.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 6:08

Wow. Wow, did you ever have like rain or like water damage in the car that

Sinclair Kennally 6:12

yeah, it was just a tiny seal leak in the rear passenger door. You never ever would have noticed it almost invisible to the naked eye. Wow. But I could feel that it was damp. Every once in a while after a rainstorm and living in Oregon. That's sort of Yeah.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 6:28

Interesting. Well, I want to dive into all of these even more, you know, more specifically, but maybe I should back up. And first, have you kind of define for the listeners what a toxin is like, what's the deal with toxins? What are they?

Sinclair Kennally 6:39

Such a great question. Okay, so we do make our own metabolic waste that is toxic to us in our bodies that need to be excreted. But that's not what we're talking about. When we talk about toxins. For the most part, today we are talking about substances that our bodies were never designed to interact with in the first place. Even if they are from the Earth itself, like aluminum is a major toxin, we are living in the aluminum age we have been for decades. And when when was used for anything, it's in our food, it's in our cookware, it's in our personal care products, and you know, our food is stored in it. So that's an example of a toxin that is really abundant in the Earth's crust. But we never evolved with it because we weren't mining the Earth's crust until very recently. But for the most part, when people are talking about toxins, they're talking about industrial chemicals. Sure, there are over 100,000 of them. And very few of those have been tested for safety. You know, we think in the US that like if it's on the shelves, it must be safe, somebody is looking out for me. And honestly, that's not really the case, the burden is on the consumer in the US to prove that something is hurting our health. The burden is not on the companies to prove that something is safe for the public.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 7:53

So when you say industrial chemical, because I want to break this down for the listeners, because I think some of my guests are so smart that they don't mean to what they almost talk over the audience. When I hear industrial chemical, yeah. I think of like a factory I think of and we have many factories in Iowa, like driving across the interstate, like Don't roll your windows down, or you're gonna smell who knows what, you know, pollution. But are you when you say industrial chemicals? Are you talking about like cleaning chemicals that are on the shelf at Target? Like is that what you mean by that?

Sinclair Kennally 8:22

I'm talking about synthetic substances that are yes, in our cleaning products. They're also in our building materials. They're in our personal care products, and they're in our food and our food packaging.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 8:34

They're everywhere. Yeah, yeah, they

Sinclair Kennally 8:36

are everywhere. They're in our air, they're in our water. Guys, our water is really toxic. Our municipal water facilities were not designed to filter this stuff out. You cannot assume that this is being handled for you. But I tell people as it's not your fault, that you're getting exposed to all these things, but it is your job to fix it. That's good industrial toxins. Just to give you a figure from the EPA, the EPA itself admits that as of 2018, we were importing 250 pounds of chemicals per person per day into the US and that does not count. herbicides, pesticides, fuel for pharmaceuticals.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 9:14

It makes me think where I mean maybe I'm just naive. Where's all this? Yeah, where are where are they going? Yeah. into our water into our air into our all the things that your your bodies? Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. So toxins can be I mean, we are the list goes on and on. But I before maybe we continue on that list. I know you also specialize in getting to the root cause of digestive issues, which you strongly feel are toxins. Right. So there are seven of these major root causes that I want to break down. I think we just hit on number one. So I wanted to kind of mesh those questions together. So am I right in saying one of those root causes is industrial chemicals?

Sinclair Kennally 9:55

Absolutely. Because industrial chemicals like the major umbrella of a family toxins are very, very good at disrupting our natural self balancing mechanisms in our body. Another way to say that is they stop our body's ability to heal ourselves. And it's not just about like a toxin comes in, and then it goes out, passes through, and it's a little bit irritating on the way no toxins come in. And sometimes up to 80% of that volume gets stored, you know, if your body can't excrete it right away, it will try to tuck it away. And it's got a lot of short term strategies that work really well for that. But unfortunately, they add up over time to some very real chronic symptoms and illnesses. And this is what I want people to understand if you are struggling at home, if you're one of the two out of three Americans that has had digestive issues within the last seven days, this could be a component for you. And it's worth looking into. That's an insane statistic, isn't it? Two out of three Americans have had chronic digestive symptoms within the last seven days.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 10:53

It's just wrong. It's not right. I believe. I believe it. Yeah.

Sinclair Kennally 10:57

And and we think, Oh, it's just me, you know, it's just, that's just how my gut works. Or, you know, I'm on the short bus, my body's just funky, or everybody in my family has this, well, your whole family may have been exposed to something, or you may be expressing something genetically like this is how your genes respond to those toxins.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 11:14

Exactly. Exactly. So let's move on down that list of those kind of seven root causes, or those kind of maybe seven toxin. So what would be next after industrial chemicals?

Sinclair Kennally 11:26

Well, it's important understand that herbicides and pesticides are on all of your food, and they're also in the water itself. So and that includes organic food, and it doesn't, I'm not discouraging you from buying organic, nothing could be further from the truth, I really want you to buy organic, because it's one of the only ways we can show our buying power and dilute this Yeah, and change the conversation, right. But it would be naive to think that you're not getting exposed. And like, for example, all grains that are organic, it's legal to spray them with glyphosate, which is, you know, that light, yes, as part of the harvesting process as a desiccant, because it speeds up harvesting, and makes it more economical. But because it's not considered a growth agent at that time, it's still considered legal to call it organic.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 12:11

I didn't know that. And even if you love

Sinclair Kennally 12:13

your brand of organic grains, like Bob's Red Mill, or you know, whatever your favorite is, yeah, they don't have enough insight into the supply chain, they can actually guarantee that they're buying from suppliers that are avoiding that practice. Because that's

Dr. Stephanie Gray 12:28

my next question is how do you find suppliers who aren't? How do you know who's not using glyphosate? If organics not good enough? Yeah.

Sinclair Kennally 12:37

You have to start asking really intelligent questions. And there's some great small companies out there like Blue Mountain, like wildly organic, like pterosaur. These are, each food has its weird quirks about what you can do to it to destroy nutritionally, and still call it organic. This is why it's worth digging into this and starting to follow those small brands that are making the tough choices. And frankly, you know, giving yourself the room to do that, because you're so worth it. And so as your family, you pay for it now, or you pay for it later, right. But back to your question, seven root causes. So there's industrial toxins, herbicides and pesticides, heavy metals. Like for example, most people don't realize this. But if you trace back your timeline, and you're somebody with digestive issues, and you had many amalgam fillings, look at when they were put in and your digestive issue started. Because half the weight of those amalgam fillings, fillings by volume is mercury. And more than half of that mercury will evaporate within the first seven years of them being installed in your mouth that is not stable. Mercury operates at room temperatures and higher so it will pass right through your membranes, it will go down into your digestive tract, it will go into your brain and will go into your thyroid, all the places you do not want mercury. And there are many, many digestive conditions associated with mercury exposure.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 13:57

Yeah, listeners think of what St. Claire just said. So she said at room temperature or above. So if you're drinking a hot beverage and you have a bunch of metal in your mouth, as you're drinking that or if you're consuming warm foods with each chew, mercury vapors are being released and where are they going? I mean, they're literally getting stored elsewhere in your body. So very scary. So on the heavy metal topic, amalgam fillings are one huge source of exposure, what other sources

Sinclair Kennally 14:23

fish gets a bad rap because, you know, we're aware of that, especially the higher up the fishes in the food chain, the more likely it is to be high in Mark mercury, but really fillings are the greatest source of exposure. And now that we're multiple generations into the mercury amalgam experiment, it's been over 100 years. You got your mama's mercury in you, you've got your grandma's mercury in you, depending on when their fillings are put in. So there's also a generational burden to consider and it does matter your birth order. The oldest will get a higher

Dr. Stephanie Gray 14:55

Yeah, that's me.

Sinclair Kennally 14:57

Need zero

Dr. Stephanie Gray 15:00

Interesting, interesting. For the listeners, I have two episodes on holistic biologic dentistry. So if this piques your interest, please listen to those because there is a way to safely remove them, I have had mine safely removed, don't just call your dentist up after hearing this episode and say I want them all removed tomorrow, because that's not the best way to go about this. So please listen to those episodes where we can dive deeper. And maybe you can echo or comment on that.

Sinclair Kennally 15:24

That's such a great point, Stephanie, I'm really glad that you brought that up, because we like to see you prepare for it, and support your gut and get the body ready to remove the fillings. And we want you to work with a biological dentist who I mean want you to grill them. And so listen to Stephanie's episodes about that, because not all biologic dentists are created equal, you can go to iomt.org and start there, which is great. But you really want to understand their process and make sure that they are protecting you just as much as they're protecting themselves. It's not enough for them to put on a hazmat suit. When you are removing these things. It can be quite the toxic exposure unless you are getting protected with binders before during or after the A section that you have as much protection as possible.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 16:08

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Sinclair Kennally 18:23

That's a great question because personal care products are equally dangerous for both the industrial chemical side of things. Also the microplastics and the heavy metals. There's a pretty famous study where they took a cross section of lipsticks across many, many brands just a couple years ago and over 80% of them had high levels of lead contamination, not have enough insight into the supply chain. That's why it really matters what you're using. So when you think about your personal care, go ahead and throw it all out and burn it. And I'm just kidding.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 18:55

You're gonna have to tell me what lipstick you're wearing. Because you you have a great and it's a darker shade? Because I've always been told darker shades many times have heavier or higher levels of heavy metals. Yeah, so you're gonna, you're gonna have to tell me what brand if you're comfortable?

Sinclair Kennally 19:06

No, of course. So there are brands out there that are saying that they are clean. And what they're mean is that the air avoiding certain chemicals and toxins that have become more visible to the consumer as being disruptive to their health. But that doesn't mean that they are tracking the supply chain, or things like trace amounts of heavy metals. And so you need to choose a brand that is willing to do that as a starter set of rules. Anything that you put on your skin, you need to consider it food and ask Would I be willing to eat this? Because that's essentially what you're doing. Yeah. And as a highly efficient absorptive organ, right? Yeah, we do not want to cause things like liver congestion and all sorts of fun stuff by putting unnecessary things on our skin. So when it comes to things like lotion, it's really easy. Use organic coconut oil or an organic shea butter flavor with your favorite essential oil so that it has the It's except for you, but it really is boob like you could eat it. You know, that's an easy one.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 20:05

And I'll comment on the coconut oil too. I mean, most coconut oil these days is stored in glass. But you know, don't be getting those that are stored in plastic and heating them. don't heat it up in the microwave, like some of that, you know, my listeners know. But if you're new to this podcast, make sure if you're getting, I don't even know if shea butter comes in glass bottles, but I know the coconut oil. It does. Yeah. So I would I would recommend, I haven't used a lot of shea butter, maybe I should buy at least a coconut oil I use definitely I always get a glass glass jar.

Sinclair Kennally 20:34

Yeah. So that's an easy one. I also like things like, or bollocks or Morocco method for hair products, because they are so persistent and weeding out anything that could be toxic. Like if you think about how women concentrate a lot of personal care products at their head, like right at their brain, right where it's the most difficult to drain. If any of your digestion or your lamp has been compromised, your toxic exposure to your brain is going to be severely compromised and your ability to drain, especially if you're not sleeping deeply don't have enough melatonin, or you're in the presence of EMFs. And most of us are all of the above. So you have this buildup, that's really gross. And so I'm happy to link to not for the faint of heart, there is a detect shampoo that will pull it out through the scalp. You do not look good while you're using it. I'm not going to pretend that you do. But you will smell things that you used to use years ago coming out of Roe v. Yeah.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 21:31

What were the brands you mentioned the good brands are bollocks. And then would you say Moroccan

Sinclair Kennally 21:35

Morocco method? Oh, haven't come in several different products, you know, based on your type of hair? Yeah, cool. They do a really great job. For makeup. I use beauty counter or crunchy. Yep. Very little love it. Even products like Ilia. And well, these do not track heavy metals whatsoever. And so they essentially amount to like, you know, some very well intentioned greenwashing because they're not willing to actually look at if there's heavy metals in their products. That's not okay. You know, it's not good enough.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 22:08

I'm getting frustrated here. But let's,

Sinclair Kennally 22:10

let's continue. Well, this is where it starts. So the changes that we've made so far are all due to consumer demand. Right? So it starts with things like listening to this podcast episode and deciding that you are worth it, that your family is worth it. And you're going to chip away at this problem, you're going to explore these brands. You know, I like the fact that beauty counter has a really lacks return policy. If you don't like something just return that like there's no, not right.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 22:34

I totally agree. Yes.

Sinclair Kennally 22:37

And just use less like I changed my haircuts. I don't have to use hairspray anymore. You know, do you really have to use all this stuff? They're really good at getting us the thing that we do.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 22:46

Yes, yes. Yes. And you know, statistics on I used to know, and I kind of forgot them, like how many personal care products the average woman uses on a daily basis.

Sinclair Kennally 22:55

You know, the different studies contradict themselves, but it's about 38 products. It's a lot with toxic materials, and then that women use Yeah. And men, it's as low as 12, depending on study. Still a

Dr. Stephanie Gray 23:06

lot. Okay, so personal. Brand is real. So let's move on to another root cause. So give us another toxin.

Sinclair Kennally 23:15

I think it's we're talking about mold. Yeah, let's do it. The US is finally catching on to this a little bit in the functional medicine community, which is so wonderful. But we're still not good at recognizing the signs of it. And understanding just how good mold is at representing in different ways. Like you could have brain fog, you could have depression. You could have sensitivity to light and sound. You could have serious digestive issues. You could have skin sensitivities, you could have histamine issues,

Dr. Stephanie Gray 23:43

they used to say I was always taught that lime is the great mimicker. But I almost feel like mold is more of a mimicker than lime because they can go hand in hand anyways. But yeah, I like

Sinclair Kennally 23:54

yeah, no, that's so important to mention, because many people are still treating Lyme in isolation or more than isolation. And they often create the perfect conditions for each other to thrive. Right. And we're not talking about your grandma's mold. I don't know about you, but my grandmother lived through the Depression. And so when she saw mold on her food, she cut off that little bit and she kept right on eating and she had not allowed any. Yes. And that's not the mold that we're talking about. Because mold and today is very different. There are over 500 species of mold that are categorized so far and each one has its own fun, special quirks and ways that it disrupts the body and the types of mycotoxins which is poison that it dumps into the body. But mold can you know cross those species can become up to 600 times more toxic in the presence of EMFs. And what are EMS they are different electrical pollution stimuluses that from like your router, your cell phone, the wiring in your wall.

Mold uses the electrical frequencies that our routers use, for example, to communicate within the colony and they think that they're under attack. When it's like their signals getting jammed, so they start dumping far more poison than they ever used to before, think about how long we've had routers in our homes. Not that long. 15 years. Yeah, I don't even know Max. Some of us it's much less than that. So while you may have lived in a water damage building before, you know, because over half the buildings in the US have been water damaged and less than 24 hours for multistore, colonizing and water damage building, do the math. This is a rapidly developing problem that's just exploded, you know, just a little over a decade. That's why it's coming to the forefront of our consciousness in functional medicine.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 25:39

It's the time of year where many of my patients are feeling the motivation to detox, cleanse, reset, whatever you want to call it. After the year we've had in 2020, I think we all could use some renewal in our lives. Of course, one of the most common resolutions at the start of the new year is to focus on exercise and clean eating, but I'm going to be honest, you likely need more than that. If you're looking to truly build optimal health. You likely change the furnace filters in your home regularly and in your car you probably pay close attention to scheduling oil changes, and both your car in your home this regular maintenance removes gunk that keeps those systems from operating at their best and even breaking down over time. Have you ever thought about the gunk that accumulates in your body? That gunk often takes the form of toxins that accumulate over time? Can you believe that each year the average person is exposed to 14 pounds of pesticides, herbicides, food additives and preservatives. That's about the equivalent of a bowling ball of toxins.

Just like your home and your car. Regular maintenance is required to restore your body's ability to cleanse itself and eliminate these toxins to keep you operating at your best and prevent long term damage. You might know that your liver is responsible for filtering toxins from your system and you can think about this as a glass of water. If you keep on pouring in the water, the glass will eventually get full and overflow. Similarly over your lifetime your liver may accumulate a large amount of toxins and need assistance clearing them out. When it comes to supporting your liver. Consider a strategically designed researched structured liver cleanse program. To help with phase one and phase two detox pathways. You need a program with ingredients like beet, artichoke, dandelion, Milk Thistle and Alpha Lipoic Acid all of which help your liver and gallbladder purge toxins and then a fiber protein powder to bind the toxins so that you can eliminate them. In my practice, I recommend the core restore program. The kit comes with day by day instructions making it very clear and easy to understand how to change your lifestyle what to eat and which supplements to take.

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And I did. I mean from a functional medicine standpoint, I feel like I did everything I optimized her hormones, we somewhat detox the body clearly not a mold. I mean, we remove food sensitivities, I felt like I really worked her through kind of my protocol, and she just wasn't getting better. And she thought she may have breast implant illness. And I at that point said, Okay, I'm going to look into this course in Iowa. And then I don't even know at that time, if there were any surgeons, I think she went out of state for the X plant. But it was like the next day, she felt better. And that was probably for a variety of reasons. But long story short, I've talked about this on a few other episodes, I ran what I knew at that point, were some serum markers, some C three AC for a TGF beta one some markers that I was just starting to learn to explore biotoxin illnesses with and sure enough, her labs were abnormal. And so I thought okay, she's onto something, she obviously made the right decision having those implants removed.

But that kind of then led me to think okay, what was in the implants, well, what heavy metals or toxins or chemicals or mold or like what was in those implants. And then I started learning about mold, and we've had several floods here. And it was like once I started looking for it, I saw it everywhere Open The Flood literally the floodgates, the patient started flocking in because so many of them had more than I almost felt like an idiot that I hadn't known about this before. But like you said, I'm grateful that functional medicine is now finally looking at some of these things. They're now finally recognizing mold and teaching practitioners how to find it and what to look for. So I think that's where my journey began with mold, but I now use urine mycotoxin testing as well. We use all types of testing for our patients, but I think it's most important for them to assess their environment, like you did to see if their home or their car is their source of exposure or their work or whatnot.

Sinclair Kennally 29:57

It absolutely is and it's also important under and that you have to look backwards in your history because mold doesn't just colonize in the building material, it colonizes in you whether you inhale it. So it can be in your sinuses, your lungs, it can be in your digestive tract, and it wants to take over, you know, so it's really good at elbowing out other microbes so that it can really survive. And it also competes against other strains of mold in your body. So you may have been exposed in your workplace. We had an amazing client, she was such delight, she had her gallbladder removed, and she had really been struggling with her health, you know, before that, and ever since, and she had been with like, over 15 years ago, by the time she met us. She had been exposed to mold 20 years ago, in her workplace to work in the doctor's office.

So we took her through a deep mold detox, because the more she was in the presence of EMF that was like kicking it up a notch, kicking it up a notch, kicking it up a notch, you know, and she was getting more and more anxious and having more and more difficult digestive symptoms. And we took her through, you know, a deep mold detox, and she completely reclaimed who she is, you know, all the mental fatigue went away all the anxiety, all the digestive issues. It's just amazing. Another woman had a really hard constitution, but she said, Oh, you know, I just have terrible allergies. I can't deal with it. I can't kick this Candida. And I don't know why. Really? Have you ever tested your home? You know, have you ever done a urine mycotoxin test? No, no, I don't have any symptoms of mold. I have allergies, and I have Candida? Well, sweetie, let's talk because these things are related. Right. And like Candida often follows along behind mold as the opportunist because mold creates the perfect conditions for it. And they're actually quite closely related.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 31:41

Can you talk a bit about biofilms here also.

Sinclair Kennally 31:46

So it's important when you're talking about biofilms to understand that most of us when we're talking about biofilms in the functional medicine community, we're talking about the bad ones, you have healthy, good appropriate biofilms in every Oregon or you should that are appropriate to that Oregon, when we're talking about our percentage biofilms that they are actually, essentially colonizing parasites that take the form of a sick sledge and you cannot kill them with antibiotics, you will kill yourself with the appropriate antibiotic dose to kill them 5000 times over before you kill the biofilm. So you have to pull it out and use other methods and antibiotics to get rid of this stuff. And it's very much you know, opportunistic, just like you know, all parasites, it will thrive where there is low, where there's stagnation, so low flow in the body and high amounts of toxins.

Those two things go together, right, I'm moving stream runs clean, right? When you think about a stream, you know, ducks are happy when the water is clear, you know, they're all over the place. But in the part of the stream where there's a bunch of you know, fast food wrappers, you start to see the water slow down, you start to see algae start to bloom, that's the biofilm. Ducks don't want to go in that part. They don't want anywhere near it, right? Like you're good bugs and your immune system. And they cannot thrive in that environment, that parasitic bio parasites and biofilms can, so they will house toxins for you because they thrive in an anaerobic high stagnation environment. And it makes it that much more difficult to get rid of them. And, and they really do disrupt the body's systems.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 33:21

So I want to kind of try to put that in layman's terms. So this sludge, you're saying can house organisms like mold and mold toxins, lime, right. So that's why just take an antibiotic, you think, oh, I'll just take an antibiotic to treat the lime. Or I'll take a binder by in the mold, whatnot, is not all that is needed, we have to be able to penetrate the biofilm moralizer kind of saying pull the organisms out so that we can then then treat them. And I think that's what makes a really good practitioner is when they can figure out how to treat the biofilm because so many patients don't get better when we're not addressing the biofilm.

Sinclair Kennally 33:54

Exactly. It's why it's so useful to work with a practitioner actually understands what a real deep detoxes because you need mitochondrial support nutrient support because if you have chronic illness symptoms, you're not absorbing your food effectively. All right, and your foods been empty for decades because of commercial farming practices. So there's some ketchup work to do, right. And then you absolutely need not just you know, binders to mop up toxins, but you need a way to safely pull them out of storage and to remove your body and your the parasites, you know, strategies for storing them, which includes but are not limited to biofilm. So it's about gently doing this all in tandem at a pace that your body can tolerate.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 34:37

I love that. Yes. Because if you detox too quickly, many patients feel sicker and they just follow the protocol because they are feeling worse. So why would they continue? Right when clearly they need to detox. That's why they're having these symptoms. So clearly they do need to detox.

Sinclair Kennally 34:52

Yeah, I mean, I've been there you know, I listened to summit packs back in the day and I was like, Okay, I got it. I'm gonna take some cilantro and then my Mercury is good. We got like, no, no, no,

Dr. Stephanie Gray 35:02

not quite that easy. Do eat your cilantro. But yeah, it's not quite that easy.

Sinclair Kennally 35:06

You need elements to balance it, you need to think about your detox protocol, like a house, every wall has a different function. You need a support beams in place a great foundation before you put the pressure of a roof on top. Yeah,

Dr. Stephanie Gray 35:18

that's great. What is your best recommendation for patients to test their environment for mold? Like do you use Urmi? Testing? Or what do you recommend?

Sinclair Kennally 35:25

Yeah, Urmi testing is fine. So so as immunomedics We like to wherever possible, use local experts, because nothing beats eyes in the house itself.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 35:37

Sure. But if there aren't any local experts, like if you live in Iowa,

Sinclair Kennally 35:41

right, exactly. Then immune electrics are Urmi is the way to go.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 35:44

What is a immunomedics? I think some of my patients have done those actually insert them into me.

Sinclair Kennally 35:48

Yeah, just more concept to Urmi where you leave the plates out, okay. immunomedics, you can get some information without having to send in two page for the analysis. So there's a you know, a couple of layers and ways to do it, which is nice. And you also have to remember to do things like test your car, right? Test your workplace is not just about the home, test, the attic, test the basement, because if it's affecting your H fac system, it doesn't have to be insight and mold loves drywall. Like I cannot emphasize. I can see behind the face food for

Dr. Stephanie Gray 36:23

the mold. Yeah, drywall Yes, cellulose that cellulose will feed the mold. Yep,

Sinclair Kennally 36:28

yes. So you do not have to see it. For it to be there. Trust me. Also, you got to remember that, you know, people are really proud of their reverse osmosis filters, right, but those can mold very easily. So we had a woman with really bad colitis come to us when she started working with us. She could not take a sip of water without excreting blood and mucus. It was so bad. And she had to like plan her whole work day around this. It was really intense for her. So we healed her whole digestive tract. And yet she was still struggling with weight and heart palpitations and fatigue. And we kept telling her we have got it like we told her mom, it was her.

You've got mold, guaranteed. Let's run some panels on you. Of course it was there. Even the lab called them's like, this is really high citrinin. Do you have a good plan for this? Like this is spirit. No, it's bad when the lab is calling you. So a year into working with us. She still hadn't dealt with her water. She had the mold people out. They said no, no, there's no mold in this house. Just like you're wrong. It's you know, this is an old exposure. It's not in my home right now. Like you're taking way too long to recover. It's still in the house, you still haven't dealt with your water. It's got to be the water. And she finally tested it. And yes, it was a reverse osmosis filter. And she was really yourself in her children.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 37:43

Wow. Yeah, that makes me think about mine. I gotta I guess I gotta check that filter.

Sinclair Kennally 37:47

And within a week of going to distilled water instead, shoot her heart palpitations were gone. And her fatigue was cut in half. Wow. Yeah.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 37:57

That's what makes our job so hard. I mean, that's why so many patients have these chronic illnesses, because who would have thought of that? Yeah, one in a 10,000 practitioners. I mean, seriously, like, Who would have thought of that? I mean, so that's, that's great.

Sinclair Kennally 38:09

A lot of it is clinical experience, right and totally up from podcasts like this, like it's so worth listening on someone else's experience.

Dr. Stephanie Gray 38:17

Exactly. gleaning from that,

Sinclair Kennally 38:19

we should just do that. We should just do detect stories, like come on my podcast to

Dr. Stephanie Gray 38:24

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