The food we eat is structurally different from our ancestor’s food which has a detrimental effect on our physical and mental health. Teri Cochrane, the creator of The Wildatarian Diet, talks about developing the diet, avoiding mycotoxins, and improving our connection to our body.
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Some of the Foods to Eat on The Wildatarian Diet
- Squash of All Kinds
- Grass-Fed Meats
- Cornish Hen and Guinea Fowls
- Organic and Natural Wines
About Teri Cochrane
Teri Cochrane is an integrative practitioner and thought leader in sustainable health and longevity. She is the founder of The Global Sustainable Health Institute and has developed “The Cochrane Method” which integrates a multi-level, bio-individualized, metabolic health modality.
Teri specializes in complex health conditions. She also serves to maximize the human potential in ballerinas, professional athletes, and Olympic hopefuls. Teri has a private clinical practice in the metro Washington DC area. She launched her groundbreaking and Amazon bestselling new release book in 2018 – The Wildatarian Diet – Living as Nature Intended. Teri received her Bachelor of Science from the University of Florida and an advanced degree from Huntington School of Health Sciences.
She is trained in Cranio-Sacral, Herbology, Healing Touch, and is a Certified Coach Practitioner. Teri has also spent nearly 20 years as an executive for a Fortune 500 company. Teri believes longevity starts in the womb.
What’s in our Food
Teri Cochrane explains why she created The Wildatarian Diet and what exactly it means. Basically, it’s about eating all foods in as natural and organic a form as possible. She briefly explains why our vegetables and meats are almost unrecognizable from what our ancestors ate.
Teri talks about why the change in our food supply has had such an adverse effect on our bodies. Not only does the change in nutrient profile and toxic load impact our physical health, but our stress levels also alter as well.
Much of our food also contains mycotoxins. Teri describes what type of mold this is and what foods it’s most commonly found in. She shares why it’s vital we avoid foods containing high levels of mycotoxins.
Food Impacts Physical and Mental Health
Teri talks about other food elements we need to be aware of and the effects they have on our bodies. She describes some of the symptoms of poor sulfur metabolism while also explaining why we need to have sulfur, or more accurately sulfates, in our diet.
Teri also explains the problem with glyphosates. Foods high in glyphosates hinder our body’s ability to digest protein, which can not only lead to physical problems but also impacts our mental health.
Finally, Teri shares what she eats while following The Wildatarian Diet. She explains how no matter what type of foods you prefer to eat (plants, fish, meat, or combo), you can find a wilder way to eat them.
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“This is what I love about The Wildaterian Diet. I call it an equal opportunity diet because you can be plant-based, sea, land, or you can be a combo platter. It really speaks to what your body needs right now.” [14:33]
“Glyphosate has impaired our body’s ability to digest protein. It also acts as an analog to L-Serine which is so important for mental health. And then, it has impaired the body’s ability to convert sulfur to its wonderful end product of sulfate. We get stuck in this spin cycle and these vegetables, which used to be so healthy for us, are now potentially becoming our enemies.” [26:46]
“As we become sustainable in our health profile, there is a lot more that we can do. We can dance with a bounty of foods that we may not have been able to touch before.” [46:44]
In This Episode
- What the Wildaterian Diet is [4:15]
- How food supply and stress can impact your body [15:00]
- What mycotoxins are and why we should avoid them [16:00]
- What foods are highest in mycotoxins [16:30]
- Some of the symptoms of poor sulfur metabolism [24:00]
- Why Glyphosate is so bad for our bodies [25:45]
- What to eat on The Wildatarian Diet [39:30]
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Teri Cochrane 0:03
That's one of the things that we seek to do in our practice. And I believe we, we have succeeded is we are educators and we educate our clients so they're powered and informed, and they understand why. And they can pull themselves off the ledge in most cases, because they're like, Oh, yeah, now I know if I ate that I felt terrible. So there's not so much static in the body, that they're completely
Dr. Stephanie Gray 0:33
Welcome to the longevity blueprint podcast. I'm your host, Dr. Stephanie gray. My number one goal with the show is to help you discover your personalized plan to build your dream health and live a longer, happier, truly healthier life.
You're about to hear from Terry Cochran and learn why glyphosate amyloid and mycotoxins are dangerous for you and why chicken is the dirty bird. This is going to be a super intriguing conversation. Let's get started. Thanks for joining me for another episode of The your longevity blueprint podcast today. I have Terry Cochran on as a guest. She's an integrative practitioner and thought leader in sustainable health and longevity. She's the founder of the global sustainable Health Institute and has developed the Cochrane method which integrates a multi level bio individualized metabolic health modality. Terry specializes in complex health conditions. She also serves to maximize the human potential and ballerinas professional athletes and Olympic hopefuls.
She has a private clinical practice in the metro Washington DC area. she launched her groundbreaking in an Amazon best selling new release book in 2018, the wild Attarian diet living as nature intended, Tara received her Bachelors of Science from the University of Florida, and an advanced degree from Huntington School of Health Sciences. She has also trained in cranial sacral or biology, healing touch and as a certified coach practitioner. Terry has also spent nearly 20 years as an executive for a fortune 500 company. She believes longevity starts in the womb. And I love that because I mentioned that in many of my episodes that aging and longevity truly start in the womb. So welcome, Terry. Stephanie, here, tell our listeners your story, your journey into doing what you do. Well,
Teri Cochrane 2:15
we I believe that when great dissonance happens in our lives, there's a greater purpose. And so as you mentioned, I was in the corporate world, working for one of the largest financial institutions in the country really running a business unit for them. But my first born by the age of three, we were told to expect brain seizures not to grow pass by, or he had life threatening asthma. He wasn't talking, he was barely walking. And it was a journey of first trying to think about how we might accept this diagnosis. But being a Cuban refugee and having a solution seeking matrix instilled in me, I started thinking about well, what if there's another way? What if they didn't quite fully understand the why behind his condition? So I had my day job and my job was trying to figure out and fast forward at the age of 10, he was doing a lot better people were calling me Dr. Terry work. I was getting more questions in my office around why is my child having bleeding eczema than knew how to how to risk manage or deal. So I decided to leave that career and go back to school. And this was in my early 40s. And now fast forward 15 years later, we're celebrating our 50th year, my company, and we really developed a methodology that is truly, I believe, the forefront of sustainability, sustainable health and longevity.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 3:50
Awesome. Well, what is the wild Attarian diet and you wrote this book, and obviously, that has to do with this sustainable health model you've created. So as a catchy name, the wild Attarian diet, so that to me, if I hadn't heard of this, I would think, okay, you're eating wild game. Tell us the benefits of that, like, what is the wild terian diet? And how is this different and important to longevity?
Teri Cochrane 4:13
So what's so interesting is a while to tarrying diet falls under the umbrella of my methodology, which is the Cochrane method. And this diet is really eating to your genetic blueprint and your current state of health. And what I've discerned over our research and clinical outcomes in my practice, is the tenants of the Wild aterian diet, also involved protein solver and that malabsorption.
And the underlying or the underpinning be beneath that is that in the protein scenario, we have found under clinical research proves it instead of do our clinical outcomes, that due to the crowding conditions, within which we raise our animals, chicken being the most effective is that the crowded conditions is now creating an environment for truncated protein structures to be created in the tissue of these animals and these truncated protein structures by the name of amyloids are indigestible in our body and studies from heybridge in japan show that they are responsible for contributing to over 80% of what's going on in our country with a not from an autoimmune perspective kidney disease cancer infertility so it's a really big deal and we found that when we go to wild game or wild fish and shellfish or non miko toxic legumes and vegetables and fruits then we can really help mitigate the reactivation of pathogenic loads and so what we found through our practice is that it also in the clinical literature is that these amyloids were actually activating viruses and building biofilm and biofilm is that which protects many of our pathogens such as candida strep and staph and even the spiral of line and so by mitigating and minimizing the amyloids through the dietary process that we were finding that actually resolving hashimotos and bell's palsy and polycystic ovarian syndrome as a result of not creating a feeder system for these viruses and
Dr. Stephanie Gray 6:38
so that's a mouthful and that's very complex so to break this down you're in what you're trying to do it sounds like is avoid the proteins that are higher in amyloid like chicken which you call the dirty bird so when i think of amyloid what immediately comes to my mind is amyloid plaque in the brain which causes dementia so i do associate the word amyloid with bad for my health not good for longevity so i think what you were saying is that chicken specifically has very high amounts of the amyloid right so which kind of like whoa but most individuals especially some individuals who are trying to lose weight they think chickens are good a protein leaner protein to consume if they're trying to avoid red meat for their cholesterol or whatnot you know they may think that they're they're choosing a better protein by consuming chicken but it sounds like you're saying the chicken that are not pasture raised that are more grown the commercial raised chicken are the ones that are going to have the highest amount of amyloid so what if you have chickens in your backyard are they still going to have higher amounts of amyloid
Teri Cochrane 7:44
that's a really good question and so what what we do also know is that genetics are passed down generationally and so if you have heritage farm birds that's a different story than even if that chicken is raised in your backyard but its mother was a hand chicken so we have to go back and really find out the lineage of that chicken because it is these dna is being passed through generationally
Dr. Stephanie Gray 8:11
what do we know how many generations or we don't know at this point how
Teri Cochrane 8:14
far do we get what i can tell you is that i had a story which is really interesting because these animals will also affect glucose metabolism of a gentleman who had osteomyelitis which is a bacterial infection that meets your bone he's also a type one diabetic and he could not resolve his osteomyelitis well within a month of working with us because often my life is better but because he had dropped his use of insulin by up to 90% and dropped from like 400 to 120 it was really miraculous and he had a one meal of chicken and his blood sugar went up by 250 points for four days and he thought well that's just really weird let's try it again a month later he tried the same thing to say so you know we have a direct corollary there and we've had many other ends or anecdotal incidences such as that that really speak to the detrimental power of the chicken and i believe that dr mercola recently came out with some information around chicken that is also really high in omega six which is an inflammatory other studies point that it reads e coli you know that it's it really starts reactivation we call i linked to so many uti eyes and candida live together it can either be a following infection in candida or being a fungal organism that went over wrong can really mess with our brain because it affects our mental health through affecting the dopamine
Dr. Stephanie Gray 9:44
so you unpacked a lot a few minutes ago so we first first introduced how amyloids are bad and they're finding our chicken and then you transitioned a little bit to mycotoxins and really choosing the lower mycotoxin i think you were alluding grain. So are you saying that the chicken are eating the grains that are loaded with mycotoxins and thus the or make that connection for me.
Teri Cochrane 10:08
So, chickens are primarily fed corn 90%, over 90% of the corn in the United States is genetically modified. So we have that interruption, first of all, but then the way that corn is stored is that it has a mycotoxin, which is a fungal metabolite. And these mycotoxins, I call them fire starters. We're creating and building bio. And what the research shows and what our clinical outcomes prove is that the biofilm will create amyloid, the amyloid will build biofilm and so they're having this nice little ping pong match, fortifying each other, and we're losing. And so, for example, peas are considered a mycotoxin. Green key and a lot of people try to manage, you know, a healthy lifestyle with eating, consuming pea protein before they work out with actually just regulating things like peanut butter, I call it the devil on steroids, because that is a high oxalate foods, which we'll talk about in problems with isolates, but it's also an app low toxin, so it is a mycotoxin of grand proportions. And it's high mold. And so that is really a problem. And in there, we've linked in many cases, you know, butter, type two diabetes, that you know, something that is supposed to be a healthy protein and in good bad, is actually potentially tripping you into type two diabetes, because if you've had strep in your background, these mycotoxins can reactivate struct antibodies, which then has been clinically proven to just regulate responses.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 11:47
Wow. So you or you were also alluding to just viruses getting reactivated. You again you unpacked a lot. So I just want to break this down for the listener. So I think what you were saying was that viruses can use or hide in do they hide in the amyloids or hide they hide in the biofilm,
Teri Cochrane 12:04
so they can hide in biome number of viruses actually are being activated by the amyloid proteins. Okay, this is driving protein, Brian and bridging and viruses do hide in certain of our organs hashimotos, the autoimmune version of thyroid dysfunction, hyper thyroid dysfunction, there are some studies that prove over 80% that that's been linked to the epstein barr virus, which is the Manu virus,
Dr. Stephanie Gray 12:33
which you may have been exposed to years back, but then you're saying you eat these foods and essentially the virus gets reactivated so then it can contribute to this disease. Absolutely. And
Teri Cochrane 12:43
what I found personally and it was really interesting, Stephanie, as I was writing the book, all of a sudden I went from being completely healthy to non functioning overnight. And what I learned through the process was that I had seven viruses reactively and reduce stress. And epstein barr was through the roof cytomegalovirus, Parvo virus varicella zoster HSV one, and I had liver damage, I had brain swelling, I had complete neuropathy. Ah, I was really interesting. They thought I had mine because the cytomegalovirus and there's political literature where that can glue to have a false positive in a Western blot in certain strands of life. And so they were treating me for Lyme and in fact, and so now I actually look at line through the lens of environments because aspired even if you do not align bacteria, and it's, it's co infections, they're also being fed by this phenomenon. Sure.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 13:50
So how did you know you had all these viruses Did you have a blood panel run with antibodies are How did you know?
Teri Cochrane 13:55
I did. We do well, I also have my own method of applied kinesiology so within my office, I was testing for those viruses and then when I had the blood panels done, oh my goodness, my idg, epstein barr and all the others were in the hundreds. So it was a reactivation and I actually not only had idg but I had IDM which was an active Wow. Which is really everything just got really turned on and very interesting phenomenon. But when once I was able to understand what was happening, and really went wild, and went for a while I actually had to go and this is what I love about the wild aterian diets I call it equal opportunity. Because you can be plants you can be sea you can be land you can be combo platter, it really speaks to what is your body meeting right now. And with my liver being so Dell in such a place, I actually went vegan for a little bit so I could bring those liver enzymes down. But what was so fascinating Stephanie is once I figured it out, within two weeks, my liver enzymes went from 130 wow yeah that in wow old clinical literature is like is not happening possibly can't happen but we you know we have evidence there so that really helped inform the writing of the book i was literally living through what the food supply and stress induced to a body and then how quickly recovery can happen when you start giving the body what it needs
Dr. Stephanie Gray 15:29
and i want to tell our listeners what their bodies need i want to get to how you do eat but i want to stay on the problem for a moment here and talk a little bit more about mycotoxins and then i want to get into glyphosate before we get to the solution right so let's go back to mycotoxins can you feel listeners just so that they can kind of scrutinize their their current diet list for them the food groups that
Teri Cochrane 15:49
are going to be the highest and mycotoxins so you mentioned peanuts of course what other foods are going to be high so mycotoxins are anything that can live in or be a part of a mold containing organisms and so mushrooms you know mushrooms are being deemed to be no so immune modulating yet any client of mine that has strep or candida or any kind of aspergillus i really just don't give them any form of mushroom whether supplementally or form we have peas the green key keys are like is like these tend to be a high high mold so those mycotoxins that then build aspergillus which is a mold can set off which is really interesting so we have the mycotoxins which are the corn the peas the peanuts soy of course we have green beans we have actually even brazil maximum high in mold pistachios are high in mold berries and behind mold grapes are high in mold you know when it grows on it candler actually
Dr. Stephanie Gray 16:58
when of course wine from the grapes and coffee
Teri Cochrane 17:02
and coffee that's why it's so important to do that low mold low acid coffee and the unsulphured no adding sulfite great wine to your repertoire and wanting to consume one so those are all part of that micro toxic family and then what's so interesting is that oxalates will make babies aspergillus in safe or offline molds
Dr. Stephanie Gray 17:29
some of the foods you mentioned the legumes are going to be high in oxalate so which legumes are you okay with which are you not okay with how do you recommend they be prepared let's talk about oxalates
Teri Cochrane 17:39
what's what's really interesting and we may want to then move into the to the why why the oxalates are problematic right now but before we do that oxalates are contained in really healthy foods such as aldrin's black beans and spinach and swiss chard and berries and so what's happening is we're having trouble breaking down the offices because our micro organisms within our gut has shifted due to an endogenous bad boy which is glyphosate we'll get to that but these oxalates are helping to create aspergillus and aspergillus helps to increase the oxalate load and so oxalates are really we know oxalates in the past in terms of kidney stones right which can which are basically oxalate crystals but now we know that high oxalates and they're contributory to exacerbating autism because of how they affect neurotransmission dopamine serotonin epinephrine and all those other neurotransmitters so we're creating this perfect storm through our food supply and i'm a disrupter even in the functional space because a lot of our rendering colleagues sisters are in the past it myself included was like pro sulfur pro oxidant but i have changed because our macro plasm has changed as well and so nuts which almonds and putting in that's gonna be oxalates i had one client literally tell me you're right dairy nuts were making nuts wow yeah they were really facilitating a disruption in her biology
Dr. Stephanie Gray 19:33
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Teri Cochrane 21:33
not really, I mean, not inherent in there. And then one of the worst ones I call it killer kale. So kale is the oxalate and sulfur rich, and it's also very, very heavy in it's a sponge with pesticides, you know, so it really carrying a lot of toxins.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 21:51
So buy organic if you're going to eat it. And, and I do want to say to the listeners too, although we're talking about all these things you can't eat, I know that in your with your method. And what I do with my patients is we do look at one's genes because some individuals can have some organic kale, right? We're not saying everyone should never touch kale or should never touch beans, I believe that's not what you're saying we very much need to focus on once by treating the biochemical individuality of that patient. And so I have had kidney stones. So I have looked into if I have genes that can increase the predisposition to making kidney stones. And so there are four different genes I look at with my patients to see if they're, they're at increased risk. And so some of those individuals, yes, of course, need to be on a lower kayo or lower oxalate diet, but not everyone needs to be not everyone. And as a matter of fact, we will change over the course of our lifetime. As a matter of fact, one of our clients from this morning, who happens to have the celox gene, the COVID gene in the in the CBS gene right now, she's just had a baby. And she also has the mthfr c 677. t polymorphism, which goes to methylation and biosynthesis. So she's that malabsorption she's recycling estrogen.
Teri Cochrane 23:01
So in her case, I'm saying eat a bunch of pursuers vegetables right now, because they impart dem, which helps to metabolize estrogen and, and upregulate based on liver detoxification. So in the past, before she was estrogen dominant, sulfur was not her friend, but now it's and so things change, things change. But here, as we're in the Washington, DC area, we're going into the fall where the leaves fall, and so does and mold lives. And so we say, you know, eat counter seasonally, if you're in a high mold environment, and you have certain genes in that season, myself included, I have all the bad genes that I stay away right now, because it's gonna affect me. Sure, sure.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 23:51
Let's transition to sulfur. We still got to go back to glyphosate, but let's talk about silver a little bit here. So how would one know if they did have poor sulfur metabolism? Like what symptoms or reactions to foods may they have?
Teri Cochrane 24:04
So sulfur we've linked in this practice to irritable bowel to crowns, ulcerative colitis. 73% of Ra has been linked. Our AV rheumatoid arthritis has been linked to an impaired sulfur processing capacity, endocrine function also mental health, there are certain genes that will affect again neuro transmissions as the binding synthase is the dsj which I call central broadcasting station, in terms of how that is such a big gene in hertz sulfur process. Sure.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 24:39
I also tell patients if you eat sulfur rich foods and then you really smell like sulfur, then you probably can't metabolize it very well, right.
Teri Cochrane 24:46
We do the asparagus test if you can spell it asparagus on the way out. More than likely, you have some issues processing yourself. Sure. And sulfur is found in a lot of foods. Some of you are alluding to like the cruciferous veggies Now there's a time in place where some people actually need more fruits and vegetables that have the sulfur in them. And then there's a time in place where if you have these genetic variations like you have it sounds like you should probably limit those sulfur rich vegetables. Exactly. And you know, p five p, which is a form of the six is really good for the metabolism of sulfur, and off swords. I've also developed a my own supplement that has watermelon, cilantro and sea salt and the intersection Linda's success in managing sulfur in oxalic metabolism, especially in celiacs. Because we're finding in every one of my celiacs, they have inherent sulfur and oxygen metabolism it attacks.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 25:40
Wow, very interesting. Okay, let's go back to glyphosate. So most of my listeners probably know what glyphosate is. But can you can you tell us why glyphosate is so bad?
Teri Cochrane 25:50
Like we say it is really not that bad, bad. So like to say, is the active ingredient in the herbicide Roundup, and the brilliant work of Dr. Stephanie Center by at MIT has proven that glyphosate is an osprey it creates, it becomes an animal to license and glycine is an amino acid so important in the making of hydrochloric acid, which is super important in how we break down protein, and how that hydrochloric acid unlocks the enzymes secreted by the pancreas, all of our pepsin, trypsin, vectorbase, and so forth. And so it's impaired our body's ability to digest protein. It also acts as an analogue to L searing which is so important for mental health. And then it has impaired the body's ability to convert sulfur to it's wonderful and product of sulfate, we get stuck in this kind of spin cycle. And these vegetables, which used to be so healthy for us, are now becoming potentially our enemies.
And I can speak to this Personally, my genes have not changed, of course, but my ability to digest these sulfur processing compounds as because the glyphosate load, even if we are organic senate notes that there's cross contamination or water supplies, period, we it's really hard to get away from the glyphosate. And then the last thing that glyphosate does, is that it has somehow impaired our body's ability to produce the micro organisms in our microbiome, which metabolize oxalates. So it has just far reaching, far reaching negative impacts on our microbiology within our gut. But then when all of those things happen, then we inadvertently can express those genes that then exacerbate the problem for us, and you know, to Ben Lynch's brilliant work is that and we've seen this in our practice, where you can have dirty jeans. So even though you may not exhibit the gene polymorphism, you're acting like you do. So we have to marry their genetic blueprint to their current state of health and symptomology and see if in some cases, they could be experiencing that situation.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 28:41
I like how you say that current state of health because I do think that does determine how we can eat right so when our health when we're in good health and under less stress, a lot of our our genetic will say defects or variations are not necessarily going to be significant for us. And then there are going to be times in our life where they're extremely significant for us. So yeah, our our current state of health can determine how we need to be eating but we all need to be eating well. Most of the time anyways, I've heard that you have visited. I don't know how to pronounce his name Joe solitons polyface Farms, wars and
reform in Virginia. He's been on so many documentaries. So I've seen him you know, for four years, but how what was that experience like and what he's doing incredible. I
Teri Cochrane 29:22
attended the last, the last ever lunatics tour. And there were people from I believe, 30 countries. Wow. Obviously pre COVID they were there were 1200 of us gathered or in a full day and really understanding how he created he can he really transformed this barren piece of properties. Virginia, which is near Charlottesville into this utopia for animals and the chickens how he doesn't let them they're free range, truly free range for all of their lives but they rotate and how their excrement is actually repopulating the nourishment of the soil so he had the animals becoming part of the solution in terms of what their byproducts were and how they're your pigs were forage effectively i believe that his pigs are like wild boar and bass even known to be dirty but it actually has a very high amino acid leucine which is super antiviral so when i choose if you will as a while not to eat non wild i can very much tolerate for especially his work where they're eating pine cones and pine needles and therefore as you can in the woods and so it was really beautiful to see how much love was poured into the land and the animals and how respectful they were treated during your lifetime when i read omnivore's dilemma where he was quoted and featured i went and that was my gosh almost 15 years ago where i do believe we're meant to be opportunistic carnivores that's why we have our canines not all of us and again we're our current state of health i'm not naturally a vegan but i need to be vegan when i was really ill and so using that dynamic and philosophy i think we can navigate longevity handling understanding what our body's saying at the time and white saying sure a feedback mechanism
Dr. Stephanie Gray 31:25
joe rogan has an amazing podcast with him that any of any of the listeners want to listen to a long podcast he um he talks about what he's doing and it's it's truly amazing so i encourage you listen to that let's go back to poop for a minute so poop is important because we need that poop in our soil so that our soil can produce food rich in nutrients so at which we know our soils become very very depleted these days so not just talking about poop but also gas i want to talk about the methane from cows leading to higher co2 levels in there that some individuals are so concerned about i want to ask about your theory on that and why you think that has all of a sudden become a problem when we've had cows you know on this earth for a long time
Teri Cochrane 32:08
yes so i do believe that there has been a significant change and it's because cows are herbivores they're meant to be on grass they're not meant to be on corn and so when we are feeding them corn and their own which is animal by products they are no longer able to properly digest and metabolize their food source and so they are gassing off gassing truly think about when we can't digest something we have flatulence now people think that they're supposed to fluctuate daily well i can tell you you're really poop talks you know i say let's talk poop and let it let them talk to you and you know your your your stool should be a certain color a certain consistency should not have a massive odor you know you have gas it should not be it should not be odiferous really shouldn't be guessing otherwise you're having some level of indigestion and fermentation potentially future education so my personal theory albeit not yet proven is that we have we have really done a number on our animals in the way that we treat and feed them in a way that is so contributing to department sure
Dr. Stephanie Gray 33:28
alright let's go back to the cochrane method so what is the cochrane method
Teri Cochrane 33:32
so the copy method is a viable individual methodology rooted in biochemistry and quantum biology biophysics and musculoskeletal in nutrition and i use my adapted form of applied kinesiology to allow the body to inform the practitioner as to what exactly is going on and what i love about this methodology it's in real time and i have a naturopathic doctor that works with us and we work very collaboratively with doctors across the country actually and you know when we when we collaborate in with them and you do the saliva the blood the stool all the you know all the bells and whistles in many cases not in all cases the muscle testing is corroborated by the other testing and what the cochrane method seeks to do is to look to a footprint of genetic possibility and then the four portals of environment which is food and toxins and heavy metals food being the big one pathogenic glow which are the viruses not just agm robot inhibitors though i got a new viral infection but the reactivation of viruses be overgrowth of bacteria, fungi, parasites, we have the emotional piece, which that's the back piece of the third tenet of wild terian ism, where we know that when we secrete epinephrine and also known as adrenalin, it literally, in our biology, microbiology will increase the pathogenicity of our organisms, making them bullies, it increases fat metabolism impairment, it leaks the gut, it just has a lot of deleterious effect. So the emotional piece is a big piece. And one of the things that didn't make the book, which is we now know that there's a human biofield, which is a field of information that was outside of us by a biophysicist, and he certainly did studies on that, on how our energy really impacts our DNA expression. And what our thoughts are so powerful. And then the last thing is a physical impact if you are hit, if you are injured, there's trauma to the body elicit a cascade of changes.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 36:05
You have just launched the global sustainable Health Institute.
Teri Cochrane 36:08
So tell us what that is. Well, I'm really proud of that, because for many years, I've been asked Terry, what are you an expert in? Am I an expert in autoimmunity? Am I an expert in Lyme, I'm an expert in hashimotos, or fertility or mental health. And really, what we realize is that we are an expert in body because you can't separate one from the other end for many, many years. I've been asked by practitioners of all kinds, MDS, MDS, ODS, chiropractors, you name it, to shadow, my practice, because it's a pioneering work, the results prove it. And so I finally decided, and it was really interesting, it was before the novel season came into being, but right before that happened, I was nudged to really teach my methodology. And so the the global sustainable Health Institute is a platform from one to one, clinical practice to one to many, where the Cochrane method will be taught, we're, we're right now in the early stages of partnering with a wonderful human out of Canada, where we're going to teach lines with the ones with the Cochrane method to and we're putting the practitioner model together. And then it's really taking and scaling this wild aterian approach to institutions that now more than ever, immunity is the thing, you know, immunity, and longevity is the long game. If we do a short term approach to food and our how we live our lives, its short term, its results as well. So we have to see to be sustainable in our health.
And as you stated earlier, and we're completely aligned as longevity starts in the womb. And we have seen this through the babies that we've taken through our process for a decade or more. And women that have been told there and forget it, you're infertile, and you will never have a child. And now they bore children healthfully without any external intervention, or mobile intervention. And these children, if you look at them and compare them to their siblings, they're more robust. They don't have the allergies. We have a child now that the mom got pregnant at 43. And she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, well, we come with a warning label. And her son, she has three boys. Now her other two sons are anaphylaxis, to mold and nuts and all sorts of things and trees. And this little guy, William, he's like a little team, he's now going to be two. And there's zero things that are, you know, he's not sick. He's not allergic to anything. And because when she got pregnant, we marry the genetic blueprint of she and her husband, and she ate to the intersection of the genetic blueprint of the parents. And this little guy is amazing. And so that's pretty positive that we just had another one, our first client again, the one that's now having a little estrogen dominance. Her childhood, this child was on the spectrum. This child is so robust, and when he eats outside of his genetic blueprint, it's an immediate feedback loop, but that mom knows. So there's no guessing. And this little guy is just just writing. There'll be a year old next month. And there's he's not been sick once. Wonderful.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 39:29
So let's talk about what we can eat on the wild a terian diet. So can you kind of break down grains and proteins, tell us what you eat every day and I know you're eating for your genetic blueprint, but tell us what is included on the wall, the terian diet.
Teri Cochrane 39:43
So the wild terian diet is going to be based on four major archetypes that I have developed. It's either going to be a basic while the tyrian where you're just low on amyloids and I cannot stress enough how important that we stay away from things that make amyloid plaques for amyloid fibrils that We're ingesting, we have to really reduce that could be a low sulfur wild Attarian, which is what I am. So you're going to avoid those cruciferous vegetables and a lot of egg yolk that also is sulfuric in garlic. And I mean, I can do cook rollicking. And I could do broccoli and cauliflower as well. But I'm not going to do them every day. And I certainly not going to juice with kale because that I've tried that before and I've literally gotten sick. And then there's a low fat wild Attarian, which is if you're eating, if you have certain genetic predispositions where you're not breaking down fat, then anything that's high fat, such as even salmon, you know, can really clog up the works from a hormonal perspective from a neurotransmitter perspective, from a depth perspective.
So we're going to go lower back, and then the there's a low fat low silver lava terian which you're gonna incorporate that and then we have a little tail which is the low oxalate so what do I Well, this morning, I had a smoothie that was made with avocado, and mango and some fish collagen. And for lunch, I'm going to have bison with fresh lettuce and heirloom tomatoes. Last night, I had some lamb with some carrots and some roasted potatoes, I went out to dinner but that was at the restaurant and it was available it was completely wild. So what we what we tend to say is if you stay away from the glyphosate which is found in gluten, if you stay away from the mycotoxins, which is found in the certain beans and nuts, if you stay away from the sulfur, if you've had that issue, that what I do instead is I gravitate towards my squash, love all kinds of squash in terms of my vegetables, my eggplant, they used to think that nightshades which include a plant tomato and peppers, and potatoes was a problem well, in my practice we've seen it's really the sulfur in the opposite conditions.
And so I eat liberally my eggplant, my my peppers, roasted peppers, my tomatoes have all kinds of potatoes here and there, but more more likely sweet potatoes. I love my cucumber. I love my cilantro. It's such a great detoxifier all kinds of lettuce but not a rubella or kale, but my big my boss and my lamb. And then the fruit papaya is amazing because it has happened and it's a great digestive aid. I don't do well with citrus because it acidifies me, but again, mango papaya, I limit my berries because of the oxalates. But I love right now we're in peach season. That's incredible. But I don't need a lot of a lot of chemo at that time, but I do eat a lot of watermelon.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 42:41
See, that sounds amazing. But I have fructose intolerance. So a lot of the things you said I cannot have when you're saying watermelon and peach and squashing, you know a lot of those. I'm thinking that sounds delicious. But so, you know, if someone had fructose intolerance, they can't necessarily consume those. But that's also why having a practitioner to work with you is so invaluable to help you personalize your diet.
Teri Cochrane 43:02
No, it's absolutely right. And so what's what we say is there's no one food or supplement for everyone. Right? To be poisoned for me and vice versa. Right. So you know, for me, I do well, like Who am I usually I try to do a Pinto or what I have found that the Pinto in the Great Northern tip on some lower ACID properties. Black beans are high oxalate, so, and I'm Cuban, so I grew up on black beans, but I have to be respectful. But if I what I find too is a new pair. So if I pair my black beans with mango, which is really high in vitamin A, which really helps the epithelial lining of the gut, and I can actually do that during the okay. Sometimes it's just not that one food. It's like if you pair it with something your body really loves finger, you can get away with that if you do, too. For instance, I call I call the foods for our clients, you have center lane foods and those you can you can drive down every day. And then you have your Grinch foods, and you're going to be really respectful of those fringe views. But if you paraphrase with the center lane, you shouldn't be okay. Unless there's something else going on. But don't do bunch of fringe foods on the same day because your body's gonna go over you know, a night while so I'm lucky my lamb I bison, lamb bison, elk, Benson
Dr. Stephanie Gray 44:16
and where do you get these? So where where are you finding these? If you don't, I'm in Iowa. So I mean, I do have some farming relatives who could occasionally get me some wild game. But where are where am I going to find I can find lamb? Where am I gonna find some of these? Are there certain companies that you you work with or
Teri Cochrane 44:34
recommend? And the major grocery stores do carry lamb? They carry quarantine and
Dr. Stephanie Gray 44:40
so that'd be a better choice corn. I think you I've heard you say before cornichons or turkey are safer than chicken. Yes,
Teri Cochrane 44:46
absolutely. This little guy who's just ready to turn to your old his mother says he loves the Cornish hens. He actually sleeps better in times with Japan. So it's helping his sleep. He feels really satiated. For chicken again with that high potential. We don't do that. But in your grocery stores you can get around buys and you can get lamb you can get a portion, you can get the fish sometimes, you know Whole Foods has a lot of wilds of everything. Sure, our fish. And then there are two major providers that I knew of dirty Indian foods, which ships to 50 states overnight. blackwing Farms out of I believe it's Wisconsin also, but Thrive Market, you can avail yourself of some potentially good fish. And then vital choice. Vital choice is a really great wild fish and shellfish that your listeners avail themselves of, even in COVID, I've been traveling a little bit, and I just was on the west coast. And I navigated, you know, I navigate my wild, deteriorating palate and lifestyle. When you travel, it's not perfect, but then I'm taking my supplements again, you know, supplements help mitigate.
So I'm going through I'm taking my B six, I'm taking my wildlife. Every day I'm taking a statin because not only is it an anti histamine, but it's been proven to lower oxidative loads. So we have to marry the supplements with the food. And not all supplements are great for everyone, when I was high viral wouldn't buy on, which is thought to be such a powerful antioxidant. The master antioxidant actually was really, really bad for me, I took one dose of blue, the final thought I'd been shocked by electrical system, it really affected my neurology. Now I can take the Wi Fi on and go to violence, it has been touted to be a really great has some viral mitigating properties. So I take it now regularly, my body couldn't handle it then but it can handle it now. And so again, you know, to your listeners, as we become sustainable in our health profile, there's a lot more that we can do. And we can dance with a bounty of wounds that we may not have been able to touch before. Sure.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 46:56
Well, I'm happy to hear that you are back to health. I want to hear about your son though. So how is your son,
Teri Cochrane 47:01
Paul, he just moved to Richmond, Virginia. And he just started working for AmeriCorps. So I'm really proud of him. So my son that was 26 now he has no residue of asthma. He has his robust he ended up being a gold medalist in the Olympics with karate he grew to five feet 11 he was really an academic and a singer songwriter athletes. So he he's done extremely well and was so beautiful Stephanie's so tuned into his body. When he comes in and he sees my natural practice because his mom, to our practice, you know, they around we've given me feedback on boy, he really knows his stuff. He really knows his body. And he has not taken a course of it. But he's just he's lifted. And so that's one of the things that we seek to do in our practice. And I believe we we have succeeded is we are educators and we educate our clients. So they are powered and informed. And they understand why. And they can pull themselves off the ledge in most cases, because they're like, Oh, yeah, no, I know, if I ate that I felt terrible. So there's not so much static in the body, that they're completely
Dr. Stephanie Gray 48:16
great to hear great to hear.
Teri Cochrane 48:18
Well tell us where listeners can connect with you. Of course happy to so you can connect with me route global sustainable institute.com you connect connect with me through Terry Cochran COMM And of course, my book is on Amazon. And we have a private practice. Here in the DC area, we have the wild aterian book. And the healing seal program had many programs on her website and you can see us we have a detox program, we have a meal prep program we have the more kind of the signature program with the wild attorney and diet, which is the healing seal if we can heal and seal our gut, I say we can eat rocks, it's a metaphor is true, you know, we can really be robust in our in our gut biome and in its integrity, then we have a much broader place from which to support our our nourishment, and we have all over social media.
Dr. Stephanie Gray 49:11
So I will put a plug in for your book there. Also, it does include several recipes. So if you're kind of wondering how piano, you know, cook some of these, these foods, she does have you do have recipes included in your book, which is great, very helpful. Well, thank you so much for coming on the show today and shedding light on something I had a lot of curiosity about. I'm happy you got to clarify some of my questions today. And I won't probably be eating chicken for a while. That thank you so much for talking about oxalates and sulfur and glyphosate and amyloid things that many of my listeners probably didn't know much about. So we appreciate your time. Thanks for coming on the show.
Teri Cochrane 49:48
Where's my great pleasure?
Dr. Stephanie Gray 49:53
That concludes another episode of your longevity blueprint podcast. The Wild Attarian diet sounds like something we all should be considering And while I knew I needed to avoid glyphosate, I didn't realize where amyloid is found, which clearly we need to be avoiding too. Interestingly, my mom always cooked Cornish hens for Thanksgiving growing up, so I'm gonna have to thank her for choosing a lower amyloid poultry option. I bet she didn't even realize it. For those of you who want to learn more about the wild terian diet, Terry is offering her wilda detox program for free to listeners, I'll post the link to the program in the show notes. Be sure to check out my book your longevity blueprint. And if you aren't much of a reader, you're in luck. You can now take my course online where I walk you through each chapter in the book. Plus for a limited time, the course is 50% off, check this offer out at your longevity blueprint.com and click the course tab. One of the biggest things you can do to support the show and help us reach more listeners is to subscribe to the show. And leave us a rating and review on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen. I read all the reviews and would truly love to hear your suggestions for show topics, guests for how you're applying what you've learned on the show to create your own longevity blueprint. The podcast is produced by the team at counterweight creative. As always, thanks so much for listening and remember, wellness is waiting.
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